[MlMt] app specific password??

Mon Aug 14 12:18:47 EDT 2023

> "By the continue on your device(s) message in iCloud it’s telling 
> you to use the device needed and the application on that device for 
> that password. Doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong so far. So 
> let’s look at MM, where of course you’ve already entered the new 
> app-specific password appropriately."

Except I did NOT create a new app specific password, I merely NAMED it 
'mailmate' — I never got to a screen that asked me to enter an actual 
password. that's what I'm saying, it just kept taking me back to the 
beginning again.

On 14 Aug 2023, at 3:53, Henry Seiden wrote:

> Jo,
>
> What I can’t tell in iCloud (without doing what you did - 
> removing/replacing the original password) is when you did that did the 
> old app-specific password(s) disappear. I suspect they did, but 
> don’t know for sure if that’s so. I found a post in [Apple 
> Community discussions](https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252417570) 
> that a user says that it is so. So based on your experience and 
> theirs, I would agree with you.
>
> It sounds like you have now created a new app-specific password, 
> it’s the only one there and it exists and you have named it. So, 
> that should be it. The thing is the **ONLY** place to see/confirm it 
> is on the iCloud.com web site.
>
> You won’t see it in the Mac (System Settings) or iPhone settings. So 
> I believe you are correct that any previous settings were cleared as a 
> result of your password change. If you care to complain about that 
> possible issue, the place to go is Apple Support.
>
> And you should of course make note of it.  Why? Because in 
> MM(MailMate) it won’t be visible either (security) even though it 
> can be copied as a setting to use if migrating to another machine in 
> the future.
>
> By the continue on your device(s) message in iCloud it’s telling you 
> to use the device needed and the application on that device for that 
> password. Doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong so far. So 
> let’s look at MM, where of course you’ve already entered the new 
> *app-specific password* appropriately.
>
> Going to MM… The menu Edit IMAP setting should indicate whether that 
> password is now working for you there. In MM you input that 
> *app-specific* password **INSTEAD** of the regular iCloud account 
> password for MM’s IMAP Server and SMTP Server. Have you tried that? 
> Sometimes if MM has trouble it will pop up the warning screen for the 
> password to enter. You can enter it there or in Edit IMAP settings.
>
> Within MM’s edit IMAP settings, don’t forget to Apply your 
> changes.
>
> How to check in MM that all is well? Click the edit subscriptions 
> button to see if the screen populates with the server mailboxes 
> showing (tells you that MM is communicating with the iCloud server). 
> If it is, then all your mail should be showing up. Please confirm.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Henry Seiden
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>
> On 13 Aug 2023, at 21:42, Jo wrote:
>
>> OK, this is what happens. I go to icloud.com and sign in. That all 
>> works fine with my new password (this is on my macbook). I click on 
>> App Specific Passwords and it tells me I have none (I know I have 
>> created at least one in the past, not sure if it was for MM or not, I 
>> forget). So I click on the button that says 'generate an app specific 
>> password.' I name this 'mailmate.' That takes me to the message 'C, 
>> ontinue on one of your devices
>> On an iPhone, iPad or iPod touch go to Settings > Apple ID. On a Mac 
>> go to System Preferences or System Settings > Apple ID.'
>>
>> OK, so I go to my phone, to settings/apple ID. There's nothing there 
>> that seems to be encouraging me to continue. 2 factor ID is on. I 
>> look under Password & Security, nothing about app specific passwords 
>> there. Can't find anything anywhere that appears to help.
>>
>> I go back to the macbook and hit the ok button underneath the 
>> previous instructions to continue on another device, but nothing 
>> happens there either. It just takes me back to the beginning.
>>
>> what am I doiing wrong??
>>
>> (to be clear, this was all working just fine before I changed my 
>> apple ID password a few days ago - I was receiving my icloud mail via 
>> MM no problem - and yes I've updated the password in the IMAP account 
>> settings with the new apple ID password)
>>
>>
>> On 13 Aug 2023, at 18:10, Henry Seiden wrote:
>>
>>> Jo,
>>>
>>> You create an app specific password in iCloud.com. However, you need 
>>> to enable two-factor first. Then you can create the app-specific 
>>> password there.  Maybe that’s why things are different with the 
>>> changes you made?
>>>
>>> Here’s an [Apple Support document on implementing app-specific 
>>> passwords](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204397).
>>>
>>> I label my own app-specific passwords with the apps they are used 
>>> with for clarity in iCloud.com and in my local password 
>>> manager(mSecure).
>>>
>>> All version of MailMate have no problem using the third party 
>>> passwords once updated in iCloud. If you changed your base password 
>>> in iCloud that is the first place to look to confirm its settings 
>>> are still in place. Usually they stay put, I have not seen them 
>>> change for this reason, but recommend that you check your iCloud.
>>>
>>> On 13 Aug 2023, at 19:55, Jo wrote:
>>>
>>>> My error message suggests I might need an app specific password 
>>>> which I vaguely remember doing before, but I can't seem to create 
>>>> one._______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for
>> word what you shouldn't have said.
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Jo

Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for
word what you shouldn't have said.
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